1 00:00:08,970 --> 00:00:02,300 you're locked into inception radio 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:12,600 you're tuned in to night vision radio 3 00:00:18,970 --> 00:00:16,210 exposing the truth one secret at a time 4 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:18,980 prepare yourself as we explore the 5 00:00:24,970 --> 00:00:21,470 shadow world of suppressed history 6 00:00:27,490 --> 00:00:24,980 secret knowledge forbidden religion and 7 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:27,500 shine a light on the conspiracies to 8 00:00:48,790 --> 00:01:10,410 nothing 9 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:14,900 welcome to night vision radio 10 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:18,000 hey everybody so glad you could be here 11 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:19,870 with us tonight there's a great show 12 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:22,570 planned got a fantastic guest I'm very 13 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:26,140 excited actually been trying to get him 14 00:01:32,250 --> 00:01:29,350 for a while now and he's agreed kindly 15 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:32,260 to come on and share some knowledge with 16 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:35,110 us tonight and a lot more besides just 17 00:01:38,940 --> 00:01:36,310 knowledge which I'll tell you about a 18 00:01:40,620 --> 00:01:38,950 little bit later but first I just want 19 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:40,630 to make a couple of quick announcements 20 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:43,690 I want to welcome Patricia Baker you 21 00:01:49,469 --> 00:01:45,640 guys may remember she was on my show a 22 00:01:52,530 --> 00:01:49,479 couple weeks ago with Becky andreasen 23 00:01:54,270 --> 00:01:52,540 and they have a show it's Patricia show 24 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:54,280 and Becky's one of her co-hosts called 25 00:02:00,510 --> 00:01:57,759 supernatural girls well supernatural 26 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:00,520 girls is moving to inception radio and 27 00:02:05,219 --> 00:02:03,369 they are going to be starting up on june 28 00:02:08,310 --> 00:02:05,229 seventeenth so I know you'll want to 29 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:08,320 watch your calendar for psychic Patricia 30 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:12,010 Baker and her supernatural girls show so 31 00:02:18,780 --> 00:02:15,760 we welcome Patricia and and Becky 2 i'm 32 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:18,790 sure back he'll be showing up Patricia's 33 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:20,830 hooked up all over the place with the 34 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:24,130 best psychics and witches and whoever 35 00:02:29,310 --> 00:02:26,590 that you might want to find on a show 36 00:02:32,490 --> 00:02:29,320 like that on a supernatural show so be 37 00:02:36,660 --> 00:02:32,500 sure to nantoon six I'm sorry Jude 17 38 00:02:40,979 --> 00:02:36,670 and they're after all so just a quick 39 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:40,989 update on France the France tour is 40 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:44,049 going to be September the 20th now 41 00:02:51,210 --> 00:02:48,100 that's to the remote area and there will 42 00:02:53,850 --> 00:02:51,220 be a also another tour either the week 43 00:02:57,390 --> 00:02:53,860 or so before or the week or so after 44 00:03:00,509 --> 00:02:57,400 that to Provence dis amory delamare and 45 00:03:02,699 --> 00:03:00,519 around that area so i'll be doing that 46 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:02,709 tour with gloria Amendola and i'll be 47 00:03:07,890 --> 00:03:05,500 doing the rental chateau tour with Gary 48 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:07,900 Evans and also of course mr. Henry 49 00:03:11,250 --> 00:03:09,880 Lincoln will be there as well as Tim 50 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:11,260 Wallace Murphy another best-selling 51 00:03:18,180 --> 00:03:14,560 author going to be joining us there in 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:18,190 where they live now they're in the avi 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:21,010 ron of remand chateau so looking forward 54 00:03:24,900 --> 00:03:22,690 to that I can't wait to get back there 55 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:24,910 it's a it's a very strange and 56 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:28,240 mysterious and magical place I do love 57 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:31,810 also going to be having some surprises 58 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,510 coming up from the Henry Lincoln archive 59 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:36,720 project those are going to be announced 60 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:40,420 fairly soon we're working on some some 61 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:42,190 new things that I think you're going to 62 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:44,290 be really happy to hear about and I 63 00:03:50,190 --> 00:03:46,450 can't announce what it is just yet but 64 00:03:54,450 --> 00:03:50,200 pretty soon now let's get right down to 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:03:54,460 brass tacks my guest tonight lon 66 00:04:00,540 --> 00:03:59,290 Duquette is a author of 16 critically 67 00:04:03,390 --> 00:04:00,550 acclaimed books that have been 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:03,400 translated into 12 languages on magic 69 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:06,490 and the occult and he has been called 70 00:04:10,290 --> 00:04:07,780 what are the most respected and 71 00:04:13,610 --> 00:04:10,300 entertaining writers and lecturers in 72 00:04:17,550 --> 00:04:13,620 the field of Western mystery traditions 73 00:04:21,570 --> 00:04:17,560 he is also the Grand Master of the 74 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:21,580 United States order Templi Orientis the 75 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:24,820 OTO which all you probably heard of very 76 00:04:28,590 --> 00:04:27,490 mysterious magical organization which 77 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:28,600 we're going to hear a little bit more 78 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:32,200 about later but you may not know or you 79 00:04:35,490 --> 00:04:33,340 may know that he's also a 80 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:35,500 singer-songwriter in recording artists 81 00:04:39,540 --> 00:04:37,960 he's got some great stuff and he's going 82 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:39,550 to be making some appearances here 83 00:04:43,410 --> 00:04:41,320 coming up really quickly I know 84 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:43,420 definitely of one that's coming up here 85 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:45,130 in Southern California just write 86 00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:46,600 quickly we're going to hear about that 87 00:04:52,290 --> 00:04:49,600 and any of you that are in the area that 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:52,300 can make it over to the venue I would 89 00:04:57,540 --> 00:04:54,370 suggest that you do that because he's a 90 00:04:59,430 --> 00:04:57,550 great artist and so we're going to put 91 00:05:01,650 --> 00:04:59,440 that aside for the moment and we're 92 00:05:05,750 --> 00:05:01,660 going to welcome lon milo duquette hi 93 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:05,760 lon by let me let me just start off by 94 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:09,280 giving a little correction I'm okay but 95 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:12,760 I'm just the deputy grand master us 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:16,390 deputy grill have an order drinks only 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:20,770 the deputy oh yeah give me your google 98 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:24,610 it means a lot to my boss for me oh I'm 99 00:05:30,740 --> 00:05:27,280 at I'm sure me to say that yeah thanks 100 00:05:33,330 --> 00:05:30,750 so much correction I appreciate it now 101 00:05:37,050 --> 00:05:33,340 it's funny I was watching a little piece 102 00:05:39,450 --> 00:05:37,060 on your video piece on line today where 103 00:05:42,090 --> 00:05:39,460 you were talking about your introduction 104 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:42,100 to the work of Aleister Crowley okay 105 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:44,470 stuff all I gotta know is it Crowley or 106 00:05:50,190 --> 00:05:47,230 Crowley when it's Chloe he pronounced it 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:50,200 curly oh yeah and he would correct 108 00:05:56,850 --> 00:05:54,130 people um he said Croley it rhymes with 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:05:56,860 holy he would always say oh that's a 110 00:06:04,350 --> 00:06:00,130 good way to remember it also rhymes with 111 00:06:06,870 --> 00:06:04,360 unholy but but we also does it you'd be 112 00:06:11,070 --> 00:06:06,880 quick to point that out to us I'm sure 113 00:06:14,250 --> 00:06:11,080 he would now I I was amused by your 114 00:06:17,490 --> 00:06:14,260 recollections about having picked up the 115 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:17,500 book of the law the first time and I 116 00:06:23,370 --> 00:06:19,390 remember you were talking about you know 117 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:23,380 the first thing you read is a do what 118 00:06:27,690 --> 00:06:25,030 thou wilt shall be the whole of the law 119 00:06:30,030 --> 00:06:27,700 and then you read on and it seemed 120 00:06:32,940 --> 00:06:30,040 pretty tame stuff and pretty positive 121 00:06:35,340 --> 00:06:32,950 stuff but then later you got past some 122 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:35,350 of that and it started like scaring you 123 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:37,960 a little bit and what was funny was I 124 00:06:43,530 --> 00:06:40,330 remember the first time I heard do what 125 00:06:46,050 --> 00:06:43,540 thou wilt is the whole of the law in 126 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:46,060 association with the OTO and I thought 127 00:06:49,860 --> 00:06:48,070 oh that sounds scary that sounds 128 00:06:51,570 --> 00:06:49,870 dangerous that sounds like oh my god 129 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:51,580 we're just going to be all out there 130 00:06:56,730 --> 00:06:53,980 going helter skelter and everybody's oh 131 00:07:00,570 --> 00:06:56,740 well I'm doing what I wilt you know and 132 00:07:03,030 --> 00:07:00,580 so I never really got past that idea but 133 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:03,040 I will accept that there certainly are 134 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:08,080 ideas that today I and probably society 135 00:07:13,410 --> 00:07:10,720 at large are much more open to at least 136 00:07:16,380 --> 00:07:13,420 hearing about them opening up to them 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:16,390 then I was beat before I you know I 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:18,730 mentioned Henry Lincoln before he's the 139 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:20,890 co-author of Holy Blood Holy Grail in 140 00:07:26,730 --> 00:07:23,740 many books since then and which made a 141 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:26,740 big stir in 1982 when it was released 142 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:28,690 now remember reading it for the first 143 00:07:34,170 --> 00:07:30,940 time and hearing all these heretical 144 00:07:36,540 --> 00:07:34,180 ideas being spouted and things like Mary 145 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:36,550 Magdalene wasn't even a prostitute you 146 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:38,050 know and I remember thinking oh my god 147 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:40,120 i'm going to go straight to hell for 148 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:43,210 reading about this and when i heard you 149 00:07:47,850 --> 00:07:45,910 say something similar i had to laugh so 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:47,860 hard today so could you tell us a little 151 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:49,930 bit about that sort of dawning 152 00:07:55,930 --> 00:07:55,330 experience oh well it's uh ah it's 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:07:55,940 really fun 154 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:00,010 because it at this very moment I'm 155 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:02,960 writing the the introduction to the new 156 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:05,360 addition to a little book called The 157 00:08:15,340 --> 00:08:08,510 Legend of Aleister Crowley that I first 158 00:08:17,410 --> 00:08:15,350 read back in the in the 70s uh and it 159 00:08:20,590 --> 00:08:17,420 was one of my first introductions to 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Aleister Crowley that that finally 161 00:08:26,260 --> 00:08:23,290 started to calm me down about all of the 162 00:08:29,050 --> 00:08:26,270 rumors and stuff that I that I heard 163 00:08:31,780 --> 00:08:29,060 about it and just after all of these 164 00:08:34,450 --> 00:08:31,790 years I just got contacted by the 165 00:08:37,469 --> 00:08:34,460 publisher to write the introduction to 166 00:08:42,310 --> 00:08:37,479 this this little book that was so 167 00:08:45,250 --> 00:08:42,320 instrumental in changing my look what I 168 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:45,260 was going to be up to for the next 35 40 169 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:51,760 years but but but anyway it's it's uh 170 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:56,570 the book of the law is quoting didn't 171 00:09:03,420 --> 00:08:58,610 even say that he wrote it here it was 172 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:03,430 dictated to him he heard it audibly aah 173 00:09:14,950 --> 00:09:07,850 over a one-hour period on three 174 00:09:19,060 --> 00:09:14,960 consecutive days in april of of 1904 and 175 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:19,070 he was in a hotel room kind of Temple 176 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:22,130 setup that he'd set up in Cairo Egypt 177 00:09:32,350 --> 00:09:27,370 and he had been doing some magical 178 00:09:36,850 --> 00:09:32,360 operations prior to this through the 179 00:09:40,660 --> 00:09:36,860 mediumship of his uh his new wife Rose 180 00:09:45,310 --> 00:09:40,670 Kelly Creely and she would fall into a 181 00:09:51,010 --> 00:09:45,320 trance just quite unexpectedly and it's 182 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:51,020 a it's quite a story but it's like a lot 183 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:56,420 of uh you know holy texts or even pseudo 184 00:10:01,750 --> 00:09:57,920 holy texts you don't have to believe 185 00:10:04,890 --> 00:10:01,760 that it's that it's wholly it's either 186 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:04,900 stands on its own but it's or it doesn't 187 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:08,210 it doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense 188 00:10:14,350 --> 00:10:09,920 there are three chapters 189 00:10:20,410 --> 00:10:14,360 three uh sort of dictated from the point 190 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:20,420 of view of three gods of of ancient 191 00:10:24,910 --> 00:10:22,610 Egypt and and they're not really three 192 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:24,920 gods are really one God because there's 193 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:28,790 a you know totality an absolute God but 194 00:10:37,329 --> 00:10:31,850 it's two aspects three aspects of God 195 00:10:39,460 --> 00:10:37,339 and the first chapter is done from the 196 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:39,470 point of view of the goddess new eat the 197 00:10:46,090 --> 00:10:42,230 the sky goddess the goddess of the night 198 00:10:50,410 --> 00:10:46,100 sky and and she just simply represents 199 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:50,420 the universe as indefinitely expanded so 200 00:10:55,949 --> 00:10:52,579 it's more like physics than it is like 201 00:10:59,470 --> 00:10:55,959 religion okay she's the universe 202 00:11:02,129 --> 00:10:59,480 infinitely expanded and as modern 203 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:02,139 astrologers or astronomers will tell you 204 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:06,320 the universe has no edge and it has no 205 00:11:16,540 --> 00:11:11,480 Center ah but it did all expand from uh 206 00:11:19,569 --> 00:11:16,550 from a inscrutable center with this Big 207 00:11:22,420 --> 00:11:19,579 Bang thing and the second god of the 208 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:22,430 book of the law is dictating from the 209 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:25,630 point of view of that inscrutable center 210 00:11:31,870 --> 00:11:28,730 if the expanded circumference of the 211 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:31,880 universe is everywhere and infinite so 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:34,600 the center will be everywhere and 213 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:37,970 infinite so it's really you're really 214 00:11:43,449 --> 00:11:40,910 talking about abstract stuff that it's 215 00:11:47,769 --> 00:11:43,459 hard for us to wrap our brains around 216 00:11:50,410 --> 00:11:47,779 you know and and the third God is just 217 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:50,420 literally everything in between so you 218 00:11:54,790 --> 00:11:52,880 got the the infinite center the infinite 219 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:54,800 circumference and absolutely everything 220 00:12:01,000 --> 00:11:58,730 in between and and that in a sense is 221 00:12:03,309 --> 00:12:01,010 the essence of the the Trinity of your 222 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:03,319 choice you call it anything you want 223 00:12:09,790 --> 00:12:05,560 that's what it ultimately comes down to 224 00:12:14,889 --> 00:12:09,800 and the first chapter that the goddess 225 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:14,899 new eat of the night sky ah it's so 226 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:17,360 beautiful and then it's poetic and it's 227 00:12:23,460 --> 00:12:22,240 sensual and it's in it's very very um 228 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:23,470 sort of 229 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:25,750 so not to love me is better than all 230 00:12:32,250 --> 00:12:29,440 things you know and the second chapters 231 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:32,260 were which is hadith that inscrutable 232 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:35,530 center that the infinite contraction of 233 00:12:43,020 --> 00:12:39,880 the universe seems very practical and 234 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:43,030 and there's nothing to object to but 235 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:45,130 there's everything that's in between one 236 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:47,770 that third chapter one is the the 237 00:12:57,470 --> 00:12:51,730 Egyptian god Horus or not work elite and 238 00:13:00,630 --> 00:12:57,480 he's the guy in Egyptian mythology who 239 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:00,640 avenges the murder of his father osiris 240 00:13:09,690 --> 00:13:04,690 and so he's old he's a wild loud crazy 241 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:09,700 violent kind of guy and the whole thing 242 00:13:17,850 --> 00:13:13,530 was with Crowley even receiving this 243 00:13:23,150 --> 00:13:17,860 sort of communication at the time that 244 00:13:27,810 --> 00:13:23,160 he did I 1904 was simple was simply that 245 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:27,820 the dawn of new human consciousness was 246 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:34,720 dawning ah the human consciousness as as 247 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:37,840 a whole humanity as a whole more or less 248 00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:41,410 has accepted and is now comfortable with 249 00:13:47,460 --> 00:13:44,260 the fact that the Sun does not go out at 250 00:13:49,890 --> 00:13:47,470 night and it doesn't mean it's not born 251 00:13:54,090 --> 00:13:49,900 in the morning and it doesn't actually 252 00:13:57,810 --> 00:13:54,100 Teeter toward extinction in winter and 253 00:14:00,780 --> 00:13:57,820 it doesn't really come back the Sun is 254 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:00,790 more less stable and it's on all the 255 00:14:09,350 --> 00:14:04,090 time so for the last 2,000 years we had 256 00:14:12,420 --> 00:14:09,360 this uh a whole religion based on on 257 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:12,430 kind of a subtle magical programming 258 00:14:17,070 --> 00:14:14,710 that we all had that we were kind of 259 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:17,080 afraid that the son died every day and 260 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:20,290 when when when we're when we're 261 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:22,060 programmed to think that the Sun dies 262 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:23,920 every day then we're programmed to think 263 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:27,760 that when we die we need to be somehow 264 00:14:35,970 --> 00:14:32,680 magically booga-booga back to life and 265 00:14:37,319 --> 00:14:35,980 that's the formula the the dying God or 266 00:14:41,609 --> 00:14:37,329 the Osirian for 267 00:14:44,309 --> 00:14:41,619 formula but now we know that the Sun 268 00:14:47,309 --> 00:14:44,319 stays on all the time and now we almost 269 00:14:51,869 --> 00:14:47,319 have to deal with the with a wonderful 270 00:14:55,350 --> 00:14:51,879 possibility that we don't die if the 271 00:14:57,780 --> 00:14:55,360 Sundays on all the time ultimately we 272 00:15:01,559 --> 00:14:57,790 stay on all the time with the sun's 273 00:15:05,429 --> 00:15:01,569 never off we're never off and so this 274 00:15:08,489 --> 00:15:05,439 this immortality thing stops being some 275 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:08,499 kind of a deal that we make with some 276 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:13,360 some strange sickle deity of some kind 277 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:16,569 this kind of deal for us to to live 278 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:19,920 after death instead of that we own 279 00:15:25,999 --> 00:15:23,170 immortality is just simply the matter of 280 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:26,009 us gaining the consciousness of the 281 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:29,170 continuity of our own existence just 282 00:15:34,499 --> 00:15:32,110 like the Sun it's pretty big stuff but 283 00:15:41,069 --> 00:15:34,509 it's also pretty simple stuff and it's 284 00:15:44,369 --> 00:15:41,079 also pretty darn wholesome and wide why 285 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:44,379 did the gods choose there's wild and 286 00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:48,790 crazy guy Aleister Crowley to give voice 287 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:54,720 to this new uh wholesome revelation I 288 00:16:03,509 --> 00:15:59,410 don't know you know profits aren't 289 00:16:06,119 --> 00:16:03,519 really your normal holy man okay 290 00:16:10,619 --> 00:16:06,129 probably look at Old Testament prophets 291 00:16:13,739 --> 00:16:10,629 they died most of them were just I mean 292 00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:13,749 they would be hard to get along with me 293 00:16:20,609 --> 00:16:16,360 worry yeah they were jerk some of them 294 00:16:23,429 --> 00:16:20,619 were just absolute jerks they were done 295 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:23,439 there's a I won't say it on the radio 296 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:32,819 Elijah or Elijah's he killed a bunch of 297 00:16:39,659 --> 00:16:35,110 little kids just for making fun of his 298 00:16:44,489 --> 00:16:39,669 hair cut and you know profits profits 299 00:16:46,619 --> 00:16:44,499 aren't nice guys profits just are in the 300 00:16:49,590 --> 00:16:46,629 right place at the right time to see a 301 00:16:51,090 --> 00:16:49,600 massive shift in human consciousness and 302 00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:51,100 they have the 303 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:54,880 dassit e to give voice to what's going 304 00:17:00,290 --> 00:16:57,850 on no matter what that does to their 305 00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:00,300 life what that does to their reputation 306 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:04,900 what that does to the their own life you 307 00:17:14,670 --> 00:17:10,170 know and croley sort of fits that mold 308 00:17:17,970 --> 00:17:14,680 the other part how did the image get to 309 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:17,980 be so dark in and didn't he foster that 310 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:20,650 I mean it's like you got a kick out of 311 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:23,710 that uh he did get a kick out of it he 312 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:26,970 had sort of a perverse sense of humor uh 313 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:34,000 but uh uh what we now know with 99 314 00:17:38,670 --> 00:17:36,250 percent because when you deal with 315 00:17:42,030 --> 00:17:38,680 intelligence agencies you can never be a 316 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:42,040 hundred percent sure of anything but 317 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:44,110 Crowley had been recruited to British 318 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:45,970 intelligence while he was still in 319 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:49,860 college there's a new book out called 320 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:53,230 Alistair Cola Aleister Crowley secret 321 00:18:04,590 --> 00:17:58,240 agent 666 Aleister Crowley was a 322 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:04,600 disinformation ha propagandist for the 323 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:07,750 British government uh he helped bring 324 00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:10,210 the United States into World War one on 325 00:18:16,830 --> 00:18:13,180 England side rather than on Germany side 326 00:18:19,230 --> 00:18:16,840 he did remarkable things as an 327 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:19,240 intelligence agent the same guy that 328 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:22,240 writes this book here Aleister Crowley 329 00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:25,360 secret agent 666 is not an occultist 330 00:18:31,230 --> 00:18:28,420 he's not a curly fan this guy is an 331 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:31,240 expert on British intelligence he wrote 332 00:18:37,530 --> 00:18:35,110 the biography of Sydney Riley that Riley 333 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:37,540 ace of spies that became a mini-series 334 00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:41,770 on on Masterpiece Theatre starring of 335 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:45,190 the England's greatest spy that James 336 00:18:56,190 --> 00:18:53,290 Bond was sorry oh oh sorry and he indian 337 00:18:58,170 --> 00:18:56,200 fleming yeah now Colleen Ian Fleming's 338 00:19:02,100 --> 00:18:58,180 were good friends and colleagues brought 339 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:02,110 in by Ian Fleming who was with Naval 340 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:04,780 Intelligence uh for the 341 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:09,010 interrogation of Rudolf Hess uh it's uh 342 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:13,690 uh likely that Crowley gave Winston 343 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:17,200 Churchill the the V for victory sign 344 00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:19,450 because that's the magical sign of 345 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:22,950 Apophis entire on which uh in a magical 346 00:19:32,090 --> 00:19:26,560 realm and the Third Reich was very 347 00:19:35,850 --> 00:19:32,100 superstitious you know um HOD the the V 348 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:35,860 defeats the swastika which is a which is 349 00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:38,650 a solar symbol and the V is a symbol of 350 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:41,640 Apophis anti-fun that destroys the solar 351 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:46,270 the solar forces he he just gets more 352 00:19:54,020 --> 00:19:50,890 interesting as you dig and Aleister 353 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:54,030 Crowley you did just get more and more 354 00:20:00,290 --> 00:19:57,130 blown away add to what an interesting 355 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:00,300 fella we would but he was also just a 356 00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:04,090 wild guy never got never really kept 357 00:20:10,050 --> 00:20:08,200 friends for very long because oh my gosh 358 00:20:13,140 --> 00:20:10,060 i can imagine trying to be friends with 359 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:13,150 them it pretty impossible to deal with 360 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:15,250 now have you have you ever have you ever 361 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:21,370 been friends with a bona fide genius an 362 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:26,800 artist or a writer or somebody who truly 363 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:32,170 is a genius they are lousy Fran yeah 364 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:35,530 actually I have and you're right they 365 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:40,420 seem to be yeah kind of unable to relate 366 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:44,650 to other people because there was so 367 00:20:49,410 --> 00:20:47,230 much into what they were doing right too 368 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:49,420 bad that they're working on a on a 369 00:20:54,810 --> 00:20:52,390 different plane that really does not 370 00:21:00,720 --> 00:20:54,820 take into consideration your comfort 371 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:00,730 level exactly I'm not there yet you 372 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:03,010 think oh boy i'm i'm i'm hanging around 373 00:21:07,260 --> 00:21:05,470 this thing this guy oh boy this look 374 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:07,270 good on my resume i'm hanging around 375 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:09,670 this famous guy and then this famous guy 376 00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:13,480 just does the weirdest thing in public 377 00:21:18,150 --> 00:21:15,640 and you're stuck with trying to bail him 378 00:21:22,230 --> 00:21:18,160 out of jail for what he just did 379 00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:22,240 and uh after a while that probably gets 380 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:26,080 a little old yeah was really always 381 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:29,230 getting caught cleaning up the mess but 382 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:31,990 you know yeah he certainly did foster 383 00:21:41,340 --> 00:21:36,570 that that scary kind of kind of image 384 00:21:44,670 --> 00:21:41,350 but now what was his beginning and what 385 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:44,680 was his before he got the the messages 386 00:21:51,180 --> 00:21:47,620 from the gods to write the book of the 387 00:21:53,310 --> 00:21:51,190 law what was his earlier training and I 388 00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:53,320 also be interested to know lon what your 389 00:22:01,770 --> 00:21:56,590 early religious training if there was 390 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:01,780 such as a child how did you grow up well 391 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:04,090 like Bob Bob both curly and I were 392 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:09,720 raised in a youn'un Protestant Christian 393 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:13,240 family uh the difference is that that 394 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:18,510 his family was even more uh militantly 395 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:23,410 evangelical the then uh then my family 396 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:28,480 was um his you know the evangelical 397 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:30,370 christian movement that we see you know 398 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:33,520 Christian television it seems like that 399 00:22:38,850 --> 00:22:36,970 uh that's really it's relatively a new 400 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:38,860 movement you know they like to call 401 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:40,930 themselves the old-time religion but 402 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:44,290 really they only go back to the late 403 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:48,850 1700s okay and there's this idea of this 404 00:22:57,620 --> 00:22:53,440 apocalyptic fervor invite Jesus in your 405 00:23:03,290 --> 00:22:57,630 heart surrender to this paulist 406 00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:03,300 Calvinistic kind of um uh euphoric 407 00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:09,040 fear-based self-loathing based ah thing 408 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:12,360 is relatively new and Chloe's parents 409 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:15,400 especially his father who was a wealthy 410 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:20,470 brewer ah and a lay preacher for the 411 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,590 exclusive brethren which is sorta said 412 00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:28,240 what sort of similar kids at the 413 00:23:31,690 --> 00:23:30,280 evangelical movement of the day I'm 414 00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:31,700 familiar am 415 00:23:38,169 --> 00:23:33,710 very familiar with that exclusive 416 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:38,179 Brethren's very unusual group and when 417 00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:40,610 he was uh when it whenever he'd miss 418 00:23:47,649 --> 00:23:42,350 behave his mother would calling the 419 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:47,659 beast 666 okay all so I you know just 420 00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:52,730 like she's trained it's scary you know I 421 00:24:00,700 --> 00:23:56,990 and when his father died he really 422 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:00,710 resented what his mother was trying to 423 00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:03,019 do he a head-on fully had psychological 424 00:24:08,919 --> 00:24:06,559 issues like we all do okay but one of 425 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:08,929 them was when when he missed behaves or 426 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:10,850 when he was rebellious his mother called 427 00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:16,190 him the Beast 666 so so in the back of 428 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:19,669 his mind there was a very destroyed Ian 429 00:24:28,629 --> 00:24:23,740 sort of fascination with the beast 666 430 00:24:34,509 --> 00:24:28,639 the Beast of Revelation but later in 431 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:34,519 life his identity with that was less to 432 00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:39,010 get back at mom or less as a reaction to 433 00:24:47,049 --> 00:24:43,580 Christianity but just as a retelling in 434 00:24:49,419 --> 00:24:47,059 a Kabbalistic way of what the book of 435 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:49,429 Revelation was trying to say the book of 436 00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:53,110 Revelation was trying to describe the 437 00:24:58,810 --> 00:24:56,720 circumstances surrounding the end of the 438 00:25:02,139 --> 00:24:58,820 old age and the beginning of the next 439 00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:02,149 one and from the point of view of old 440 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:10,130 age or old a on arm magic or spiritual 441 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,130 formula the end of the age of 442 00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:15,679 Christianity would seem like a terrible 443 00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:19,700 terrible disastrous uh thing and 444 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:23,000 whatever took its place would seem like 445 00:25:28,990 --> 00:25:26,480 it is it was evil but that's how you 446 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:29,000 feel when anything that you're attached 447 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:33,490 two ends and a new thing begins okay um 448 00:25:43,149 --> 00:25:37,850 so Crowley saw what bloody was happening 449 00:25:45,550 --> 00:25:43,159 to him and what he was announcing was 450 00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:45,560 that the old age had 451 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:50,150 had decayed and died actually that's how 452 00:25:57,220 --> 00:25:53,750 it happened it started the day Rob about 453 00:25:59,800 --> 00:25:57,230 with Paul okay and then it that a 454 00:26:03,610 --> 00:25:59,810 completely decayed but that formula was 455 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:03,620 now gone and he was announcing the new 456 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:10,540 formula so in a strange sort of biblical 457 00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:18,080 literary device he identified with with 458 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:21,860 6 6 6 knot is it not as an evil thing 459 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:25,610 but as the new good thing does that make 460 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:29,300 any sense yeah yeah I mean I see how it 461 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:33,050 certainly could you know I've started 462 00:26:39,130 --> 00:26:36,770 trying to like really look at language 463 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:39,140 and really look at words and you know 464 00:26:45,010 --> 00:26:42,530 why do certain words have such negative 465 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:45,020 connotations for us well it's because of 466 00:26:51,460 --> 00:26:47,900 how we've been taught and programmed so 467 00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:51,470 in it it's been pretty effective you 468 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:55,940 know scare you into submission and so if 469 00:27:01,870 --> 00:26:57,710 you just start looking at things in a 470 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:01,880 different way which I would assume you 471 00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:04,840 know that that's what Crowley was doing 472 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:07,130 because he did have that Christian 473 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:09,860 background it would seem that he was 474 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:12,050 taking that but doing his own 475 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:13,760 interpretation of it instead of 476 00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:16,970 accepting what somebody had assigned to 477 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:18,140 it I don't notice that make any sense 478 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:21,110 well that makes sense too but remember 479 00:27:27,670 --> 00:27:23,950 what I said about geniuses yeah alright 480 00:27:32,530 --> 00:27:27,680 and what we know about geniuses kollene 481 00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:32,540 thought that everybody with a half a 482 00:27:39,070 --> 00:27:34,670 brain in their head would see what he 483 00:27:41,500 --> 00:27:39,080 was doing he thought that anybody with 484 00:27:43,780 --> 00:27:41,510 half a brain in their head would 485 00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:43,790 understand that that is totally 486 00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:48,950 ridiculous superstitious and not so they 487 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:51,440 figured anybody with half a brain in 488 00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,510 their head which would recognize what a 489 00:27:59,470 --> 00:27:56,000 genius he was and what he was saying was 490 00:28:03,310 --> 00:27:59,480 more was more like physics than it 491 00:28:06,340 --> 00:28:03,320 like like a superstitious religion but 492 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:06,350 you know hardly anybody had a half a 493 00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:11,210 brain in their head okay he / ever he / 494 00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:13,040 any figured everybody was going to know 495 00:28:17,620 --> 00:28:15,380 when he was joking when he when he did 496 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:17,630 joke and he was quite a joker and he'd 497 00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:19,610 know in everybody would know when he's 498 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:21,950 when he's serious and recognize the 499 00:28:27,850 --> 00:28:24,890 profundity of what he was doing but you 500 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:27,860 know most of the people on the planet 501 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:32,600 weren't quite ready day hearing but 502 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:37,760 after nineteen sixty seven nineteen 503 00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:41,450 sixty five or whenever the Beatles album 504 00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:45,230 came out and the psychedelic revolution 505 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:49,700 and and was that the sergeant members 506 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:52,610 sergeant middle web yet yeah well these 507 00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:55,190 are Crowley's on that yeah oh I remember 508 00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,690 seeing that goon yeah you know we're at 509 00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:02,240 the technical rain we're going to take a 510 00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:04,460 quick break sorry lon but it's it's fun 511 00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:06,800 to end on a musical note and when we 512 00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:09,230 come back people listen up because it's 513 00:29:44,489 --> 00:29:10,790 going to be a surprise coming back from 514 00:29:50,349 --> 00:29:47,919 hello everyone Laurieann Fenton here 515 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:50,359 hosted the California MUFON radio show 516 00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:53,689 asking if you'd like special access to 517 00:29:59,979 --> 00:29:56,719 exclusive and amazing information about 518 00:30:03,309 --> 00:29:59,989 UFOs the paranormal and all things 519 00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:03,319 unexplained if you're nodding yes then 520 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00:32:58,960 whole song for you absolutely thanks so 576 00:33:04,860 --> 00:33:01,840 much i love that song i Chuck up so much 577 00:33:09,210 --> 00:33:04,870 and I totally relate to it as well well 578 00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:09,220 I wrote that sort of as a response to uh 579 00:33:18,570 --> 00:33:13,360 I entered the guitar center singer 580 00:33:23,220 --> 00:33:18,580 songwriting competition in 2014 and we 581 00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:23,230 you could uh submit up to five of your 582 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:28,769 videos and and if they're youtube videos 583 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:31,330 then you did encourage people to watch 584 00:33:36,690 --> 00:33:33,610 the videos and they would count how many 585 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:36,700 times the videos were watch so it wasn't 586 00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:39,340 just voting it was actually he had to 587 00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:42,460 sit through the songs you know but 588 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:47,679 anyway I I came in first second sixth 589 00:33:56,330 --> 00:33:50,730 seventh and eighth in the field of about 590 00:33:58,889 --> 00:33:56,340 12,000 and I was twenty nearly 20,000 591 00:34:03,930 --> 00:33:58,899 views ahead of the person that came in 592 00:34:06,019 --> 00:34:03,940 second and so I was pretty thrilled 593 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:06,029 about that because there was like a 594 00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:10,030 twenty-five-thousand-dollar prize and a 595 00:34:17,369 --> 00:34:12,879 and insurance on parents on jimmy kimmel 596 00:34:18,930 --> 00:34:17,379 and a bunch of cars and stuff so i was 597 00:34:22,770 --> 00:34:18,940 feeling pretty good about that and then 598 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:22,780 when they the contest ended and they 599 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:25,240 waited about six weeks before they 600 00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:27,790 announced the winner oh the five 601 00:34:33,869 --> 00:34:31,179 finalists they were going to pick five 602 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:33,879 finalists from the top people and I 603 00:34:41,369 --> 00:34:38,710 figured well I'll being but the 604 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:41,379 five finalists they pick none of them 605 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:45,369 were finished even in the top 20 what's 606 00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:49,210 including not me and 607 00:34:54,659 --> 00:34:52,060 uh Andrew Louisville one of the 608 00:34:56,849 --> 00:34:54,669 finalists they picked had already worked 609 00:35:03,690 --> 00:34:56,859 with one of the celebrity judges on 610 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:03,700 television okay so I was me and my fan 611 00:35:10,859 --> 00:35:08,530 for we really we're really picked off 612 00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:10,869 and so I wrote that song don't write me 613 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:15,940 off because I'm all that's so funny I 614 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:20,560 just loved it I like the when you're 615 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:23,250 saying doing something you can't imagine 616 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:25,930 I don't I guess we can say that on the 617 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:29,410 air because then no no internet yeah and 618 00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:32,740 we can believe it if we go syndicated so 619 00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:35,109 we don't know about that but that was so 620 00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:37,780 lame through I just laughed and laughed 621 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:39,400 when I heard it and I loved it it was 622 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:42,310 great what a what a talent you are well 623 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:46,770 thank you I don't speaking of blogging I 624 00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:51,849 arias what it's on my newest CD that it 625 00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:54,430 was just released the other day that two 626 00:36:03,030 --> 00:35:58,480 days ago and the CD is available on CD 627 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:03,040 Baby right now and it's called sweet 628 00:36:13,710 --> 00:36:08,050 baba lon we have papa lon and it's a 629 00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:13,720 compilation album of 21 of my tunes 630 00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:15,849 including the three new ones that aren't 631 00:36:20,609 --> 00:36:17,619 that have never been released on 632 00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:20,619 anything including don't write me off so 633 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:23,940 so please let's encourage your listeners 634 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:28,330 here to buy that album they don't have 635 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:30,160 to listen to it but if they buy it I 636 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:33,130 don't appreciate it haha well I would 637 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:35,260 definitely suggest that they listen to 638 00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:40,480 it now that if CD baby yep it's all you 639 00:36:46,740 --> 00:36:43,630 can get it okay great now you know also 640 00:36:48,030 --> 00:36:46,750 while we're on it on this maybe we 641 00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:48,040 should tell people how to get your books 642 00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:50,140 because you've written like 16 books or 643 00:36:59,700 --> 00:36:53,940 something like that yeah the the easiest 644 00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,710 waited to see the selection of my books 645 00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:02,400 that I've written over the last 646 00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:06,569 well since 1988 have been writing arm is 647 00:37:14,029 --> 00:37:10,380 to go to amazon.com and just uh uh just 648 00:37:18,769 --> 00:37:14,039 Amazon Google Amazon search my name lon 649 00:37:22,549 --> 00:37:18,779 milo duquette and you know you'll get to 650 00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:22,559 my to an Amazon page and not only 651 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:25,470 everything that I've written because 652 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:29,760 I've got 17 books full books in imprint 653 00:37:39,260 --> 00:37:33,599 but I've I've introduced and edited and 654 00:37:41,450 --> 00:37:39,270 contributed and curated quite a few 655 00:37:46,329 --> 00:37:41,460 other things so I've got I've got a lot 656 00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:46,339 of lot of material and so please scan 657 00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:51,089 and skim the Duquette library on amazon 658 00:38:01,460 --> 00:37:56,190 for your little artist yes absolutely 659 00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:01,470 and so that that's really the easiest 660 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:05,400 one of course each of my publishers you 661 00:38:13,789 --> 00:38:11,010 know sell the books too but the Amazon 662 00:38:17,029 --> 00:38:13,799 just the fastest easiest in for most 663 00:38:19,789 --> 00:38:17,039 people the cheapest way to get my stuff 664 00:38:23,779 --> 00:38:19,799 and see what's out there and read the 665 00:38:26,029 --> 00:38:23,789 reviews yeah yeah yeah and you know 666 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:26,039 amazon so easy to use I mean everybody 667 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:28,020 knows how to use Amazon so that is a 668 00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:34,140 great way to get it now and also back to 669 00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:36,000 your music again you have some upcoming 670 00:38:43,099 --> 00:38:38,460 appearances I think right here in Los 671 00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:43,109 Angeles yes i'm playing a week from 672 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:50,569 tonight that's thursday june fourth at 673 00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:55,170 voodoo lounge of the hollywood house of 674 00:39:02,359 --> 00:38:59,640 blues well to me that's a big thing 675 00:39:05,299 --> 00:39:02,369 Holly of the house of blues on sunset 676 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:05,309 and my answer my show starts at 677 00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,250 seven-thirty um you know dude I'm not on 678 00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:13,520 the big you know house of blues main 679 00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:15,990 stage that can hold more 680 00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:18,180 Tabernacle Choir but I'm in the voodoo 681 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:21,720 lounge but it's still a big thing for me 682 00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:25,530 and if anybody comes i'm doing a set 683 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:28,980 next Thursday night and I'm really 684 00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,130 excited and hope you like old people 685 00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:35,520 like me don't let us off but we get 686 00:39:42,859 --> 00:39:40,080 excited exactly exactly well I think we 687 00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:42,869 need to redefine that whole ages thing 688 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:46,200 you know it's it's uh you know I think 689 00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:49,410 you know like 70 is like the new 40 as 690 00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:51,390 far as I'm come there's a new farm I'm 691 00:40:03,050 --> 00:39:55,920 comfortable with that so I must be about 692 00:40:06,650 --> 00:40:03,060 20 no just kidding oh goodness I can 693 00:40:10,970 --> 00:40:06,660 wish but anyhow let's uh get back into 694 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:10,980 some of the the magic a and such and the 695 00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:15,690 curly now you really got heavily 696 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:19,950 involved in the OTO pretty early on back 697 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:22,410 in the audio right yeah the OTO had 698 00:40:28,820 --> 00:40:25,410 almost become totally extinct it got 699 00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:28,830 down to um I believe at the time I 700 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:34,020 joined there was five or six of the old 701 00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:36,780 living members left over from Crowley's 702 00:40:46,730 --> 00:40:43,380 day ah and that was all of the OTO yah 703 00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:46,740 was Jefferson's Oh to you yes Jack 704 00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:50,640 Parsons was OTO in yellow and one of the 705 00:41:00,050 --> 00:40:54,720 one of the know he he took part of 706 00:41:02,510 --> 00:41:00,060 pasadena with him when he left um but we 707 00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:02,520 were one of the six members that were 708 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:07,280 were alive and helped initiate me in 709 00:41:17,330 --> 00:41:12,330 1975 was Helen Parsons Smith Jack 710 00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:17,340 Parsons widow mmm and and she became a 711 00:41:28,580 --> 00:41:23,070 very close family friend and um quite as 712 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:28,590 quite a character herself but it you 713 00:41:36,110 --> 00:41:32,850 was very helpful to be able to talk to 714 00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:36,120 people like Grady McMurtry in Israel 715 00:41:43,070 --> 00:41:39,750 regarding who not only is that not only 716 00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:43,080 new Crowley but lived with Crowley that 717 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:46,680 worked with Crowley and I could ask them 718 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:00,770 really no you just did and regarding 719 00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:03,690 said my god man Chloe wasn't was never 720 00:42:10,730 --> 00:42:06,480 even arrested for what jaywalking you 721 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:10,740 know but when somebody when a newspaper 722 00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:16,530 reporter was so stupid as to say is it 723 00:42:24,050 --> 00:42:20,100 true that you killed an 82 of your 724 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:24,060 native porters on that expedition to 725 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Mount Everest through K 20 K is it true 726 00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:30,930 that you killed him aight your Sherpas 727 00:42:40,030 --> 00:42:35,400 okay that's such a stupid thing say okay 728 00:42:43,610 --> 00:42:40,040 now you and me would be tempted to go 729 00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:43,620 would be insulted by that question in 730 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:46,880 tempted to go yeah I'll fo sure yeah 731 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:50,010 yeah I killed and ate him you know and 732 00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:52,050 that's just what Crowley did because he 733 00:42:57,380 --> 00:42:54,540 figured that anybody with half a brain 734 00:42:59,300 --> 00:42:57,390 in their head is going to say it see 735 00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:59,310 well cool he's just joking with these 736 00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:01,380 people if they're stupid enough to ask a 737 00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:03,900 stupid question they're stupid enough to 738 00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:07,830 did to deserve a stupid answer and 739 00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:10,440 that's just what he just what he did and 740 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:13,590 it was very it was a luxury for me as a 741 00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:17,490 young man 28 years old to be able to 742 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:20,190 talk to people that knew him firsthand 743 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:25,590 and and even though most of the terrible 744 00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,050 rumors that you hear about calling even 745 00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:31,200 though they're it for most of them there 746 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:39,540 is a speck of truth in the rumor I mean 747 00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:42,570 an iota a small juror 748 00:43:52,250 --> 00:43:46,460 of truth in the the things like the 749 00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:52,260 where he so called confessed to killing 750 00:44:00,740 --> 00:43:56,150 or sacrificing a hundred and twenty uh 751 00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:00,750 babies one year okay and he did that in 752 00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:03,750 in magic and Syrian practice in a 753 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:05,960 chapter that he called the bloody 754 00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:12,480 sacrifice okay now it was not illegal to 755 00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:18,510 talk about human sacrifice in nineteen 756 00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:21,840 twenty two or three when he was writing 757 00:44:33,730 --> 00:44:26,310 this but it was illegal to talk about 758 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:33,740 sex even medical books had to talk about 759 00:44:45,860 --> 00:44:39,930 sexual matters it very carefully to keep 760 00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:45,870 the authors out of prison now when 761 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:49,020 Crowley said that he had sacrificed a 762 00:44:59,330 --> 00:44:54,890 hundred and twenty children one year he 763 00:45:07,240 --> 00:44:59,340 was trying to tell anybody with half a 764 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:07,250 brain in there that he had ejaculated 765 00:45:18,170 --> 00:45:12,810 that many times that year without making 766 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:18,180 his partner pregnant thereby stuck there 767 00:45:22,940 --> 00:45:20,490 but who wouldn't figure that out who 768 00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:22,950 wouldn't figure that out to figure that 769 00:45:27,590 --> 00:45:26,070 up especially especially when all you 770 00:45:31,610 --> 00:45:27,600 have to do in that one particular 771 00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:31,620 chapter now you know today go down to 772 00:45:39,530 --> 00:45:33,870 the bookstore go down to just be 773 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:39,540 Dalton's or or or borders and just go to 774 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:45,810 the Tantra yoga section okay they've got 775 00:45:52,730 --> 00:45:48,770 a knockout walls for tantric yoga 776 00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,740 practices that are so explicit about 777 00:46:00,280 --> 00:45:55,520 certain uh 778 00:46:06,210 --> 00:46:00,290 uh sexual practices that are done for 779 00:46:11,140 --> 00:46:06,220 meditative and and health and spiritual 780 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:11,150 purposes it's no big thing it's no big 781 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:13,370 thing at all as a matter of fact it's 782 00:46:27,450 --> 00:46:17,930 part of the in the entire package of 783 00:46:34,990 --> 00:46:27,460 new-age practices okay sex is healthy 784 00:46:38,890 --> 00:46:35,000 okay and and but it was illegal to talk 785 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:38,900 about things like that so if and curly 786 00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:40,490 thought okay I'm going to write this 787 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:45,980 goofy chapter and instead of of treating 788 00:46:56,350 --> 00:46:49,850 the ecstasy of orgasm instead of me 789 00:47:04,540 --> 00:46:56,360 saying that i'm going to say death and 790 00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:04,550 in instead of saying uh semen i'm going 791 00:47:25,930 --> 00:47:18,570 duh the woman's body i'm going to say 792 00:47:28,090 --> 00:47:25,940 altar hmm and instead of saying uh penis 793 00:47:31,660 --> 00:47:28,100 i'm going to say wand instead of saying 794 00:47:35,250 --> 00:47:31,670 vagina i'm going to say cup instead of 795 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:35,260 saying now can you see how you're doing 796 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:37,850 this guy's going to get himself in 797 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:41,450 trouble not only that but if some of 798 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:45,170 these disciples were saying look we know 799 00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:48,440 what you're saying here but nobody else 800 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:50,660 is going to know what you're saying at 801 00:47:55,060 --> 00:47:52,850 least write an introduction to this 802 00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:55,070 chapter that says you're not saying what 803 00:48:00,850 --> 00:47:56,960 you're supposed to what it sounds like 804 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:00,860 you're saying and he did it even in that 805 00:48:06,130 --> 00:48:03,050 chapter he says now wait a minute you're 806 00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:06,140 going to get in trouble if you if you 807 00:48:09,460 --> 00:48:07,940 think I'm saying what it sounds like I'm 808 00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:09,470 saying okay 809 00:48:14,620 --> 00:48:12,590 he actually tries to prepare you for it 810 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,630 but does anybody listen to that does 811 00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:16,880 anybody read that as anybody close that 812 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:20,630 on television no what they quote is that 813 00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:27,050 he sacrificed 120 children 11 years and 814 00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:29,720 somehow it stayed out of jail yeah 815 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:34,160 exactly you know in am sure people said 816 00:48:37,930 --> 00:48:36,290 he probably was able to stay out of jail 817 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:37,940 because he had all these connections and 818 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:40,910 things although I can't imagine that 819 00:48:48,820 --> 00:48:46,609 those connections were widely known the 820 00:48:51,550 --> 00:48:48,830 Winston Churchill and all that that had 821 00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:51,560 to be behind the scenes oh yeah and and 822 00:48:59,800 --> 00:48:56,180 if you're uh uh kind of familiar with 823 00:49:04,660 --> 00:48:59,810 the breach intelligence of that day uh 824 00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:04,670 it was sort of like a volunteer group of 825 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:07,760 amateurs that that were just 826 00:49:11,710 --> 00:49:09,680 independently wealthy and could travel 827 00:49:13,930 --> 00:49:11,720 on their own nickeled and do see and do 828 00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:13,940 stuff they just reported to a couple of 829 00:49:19,329 --> 00:49:15,230 people it wasn't like they were 830 00:49:24,579 --> 00:49:19,339 connected and people keeping track of 831 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:24,589 them like the man from uncle or 832 00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:28,010 something like that he was it was just a 833 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:32,230 bunch of absolutely brilliant um 834 00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:34,490 amateurs doing this because they think 835 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:37,910 it's kind of odd lark it's kind of kind 836 00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:41,290 of fun to be in patriotic you know yeah 837 00:49:48,250 --> 00:49:44,630 but what is what if Winston Churchill I 838 00:49:51,579 --> 00:49:48,260 mean it's it's interesting that if he 839 00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:51,589 did take that sign from Crowley's of V 840 00:49:59,339 --> 00:49:55,910 for victory sign in order to use it 841 00:50:02,740 --> 00:49:59,349 against the enemy it's a it's sort of 842 00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:02,750 amazing to think that you know that 843 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:06,070 Winston Churchill was sort of on 844 00:50:12,550 --> 00:50:08,390 turtle was quite aware of the 845 00:50:16,510 --> 00:50:12,560 superstitious and I called aspect of the 846 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:16,520 Third Reich it was a it it had all of 847 00:50:23,350 --> 00:50:19,520 the just outward trappings of a you know 848 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:23,360 terribly what we would call a satanic 849 00:50:28,810 --> 00:50:25,250 would think of when you think of a 850 00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:28,820 satanic evil cult death cult yeah and 851 00:50:38,140 --> 00:50:30,950 and Churchill was well well aware of 852 00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:38,150 that mr. early on uh uh had hit a new 853 00:50:47,860 --> 00:50:43,520 Hitler followed his horoscope and uh so 854 00:50:51,070 --> 00:50:47,870 uh so Churchill said well if he's gonna 855 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:51,080 play that game maybe we can play that 856 00:51:00,460 --> 00:50:54,850 game with him and feed him uh false 857 00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:00,470 astrological information hmm okay in 858 00:51:06,610 --> 00:51:02,390 commercial was really was ready to 859 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:06,620 absolutely do it do anything and the 860 00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:10,090 fact that that uh after a certain date 861 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:14,390 he almost was never photographed unless 862 00:51:22,450 --> 00:51:20,810 he was making that sign and and and who 863 00:51:24,190 --> 00:51:22,460 knows Crowley cruelly always said that 864 00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:24,200 he that he did it and everybody said oh 865 00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:27,920 yeah sure right girlie you know but 866 00:51:34,750 --> 00:51:31,400 since the secret agent 666 book has come 867 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:34,760 out now and now everybody is going ok 868 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:39,920 this kid yeah they really did write a 869 00:51:46,570 --> 00:51:43,130 book just about his exploits with the 870 00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:46,580 intelligence and why do you think he 871 00:51:51,310 --> 00:51:49,160 went to Russia why do you think Kim and 872 00:51:53,350 --> 00:51:51,320 Sydney Riley were in the same countries 873 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:53,360 I think there's a total of ten countries 874 00:52:02,920 --> 00:51:57,650 10 foreign cities uh uh that were 875 00:52:09,780 --> 00:52:02,930 instrumental in the geopolitical chaos 876 00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:09,790 of that pre World War 1 in world war one 877 00:52:18,070 --> 00:52:13,820 period clothing Sydney Riley in the same 878 00:52:23,290 --> 00:52:18,080 towns at the same time Croley it was 879 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:23,300 Crowley's editorials uh supposedly he 880 00:52:29,170 --> 00:52:26,570 was a sympathy he got a job at a German 881 00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:29,180 propaganda newspaper in New York he 882 00:52:32,980 --> 00:52:30,560 convinced them he was a German 883 00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:32,990 sympathizers and then he started to 884 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:37,040 write editorials that were so outraged 885 00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:43,190 ously over the top okay they use his own 886 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:48,110 name yes he did yes and that's what 887 00:52:54,510 --> 00:52:52,450 that's another reason he voluntarily um 888 00:53:00,250 --> 00:52:54,520 volunteered to have his reputation 889 00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:00,260 completely smashed because he figured 890 00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:03,760 after the war anybody with half a brain 891 00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:08,630 would realize when realize but he had to 892 00:53:16,450 --> 00:53:11,960 wait almost 50 years after his death for 893 00:53:18,730 --> 00:53:16,460 their there to be gathered a bunch of 894 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:18,740 people with half a brain you know good 895 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:20,810 to see what he was up to but it's 896 00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:23,450 happening now he was he was voted number 897 00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:31,280 72 among the the 500 top Brits of all 898 00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,040 time by the London Times or something 899 00:53:42,910 --> 00:53:38,960 like that he's right in front of Robert 900 00:53:47,770 --> 00:53:42,920 between Robert Bruce you know Braveheart 901 00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:47,780 and and Henry the fist there's there's 902 00:53:54,310 --> 00:53:50,270 there's Braveheart Aleister Crowley and 903 00:54:00,220 --> 00:53:54,320 Henry the fifth there in that there is 904 00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:00,230 that hoser yeah it is so crazy now I 905 00:54:07,090 --> 00:54:02,990 think we're coming up just about time 906 00:54:08,050 --> 00:54:07,100 for another break and if we can do that 907 00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:08,060 then we're 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--> 00:58:28,800 buried there uh I'm into that abba yard 978 00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:34,130 in and Eloise they were sort of the the 979 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:40,020 French uh Romeo and Juliet medieval 980 00:58:47,630 --> 00:58:43,770 lovers that her she was a princess and 981 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:47,640 he was a poet and they were such cool 982 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:51,090 people but her dad didn't like it and he 983 00:59:01,520 --> 00:58:57,090 had he had a bizarre castrated and put 984 00:59:04,070 --> 00:59:01,530 his daughter in on nunnery and but they 985 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:04,080 kept letters going all their all their 986 00:59:10,550 --> 00:59:06,210 lives and he became a great philosopher 987 00:59:14,180 --> 00:59:10,560 and she became a great spiritual writer 988 00:59:17,450 --> 00:59:14,190 in her convent there and when they died 989 00:59:20,530 --> 00:59:17,460 they buried them together at the 990 00:59:24,650 --> 00:59:20,540 cemetery and so it was such a romantic 991 00:59:30,980 --> 00:59:24,660 story that everybody who was anybody and 992 00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:30,990 dead wanted to be there and so there oh 993 00:59:36,290 --> 00:59:33,990 you know I the song could last three 994 00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:36,300 hours and I still couldn't get through 995 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,420 all of them you know recognizable names 996 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:42,240 of people buried there so i guess it's 997 00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:44,970 as good a place to end up as any yeah 998 00:59:51,110 --> 00:59:48,150 i'd ever so do you really want to be 999 00:59:54,830 --> 00:59:51,120 buried there or is that just a song well 1000 00:59:57,650 --> 00:59:54,840 there's a there's a waiting list hard to 1001 01:00:01,040 --> 00:59:57,660 get buried there yeah oh yeah of course 1002 01:00:06,250 --> 01:00:01,050 I'd prefer to be buried there or at 1003 01:00:09,799 --> 01:00:06,260 least have a senha path set up there 1004 01:00:14,529 --> 01:00:09,809 because now you're your last name tiket 1005 01:00:18,349 --> 01:00:14,539 is obviously French yeah so your your 1006 01:00:24,849 --> 01:00:18,359 ancestors come from Paris Area or deal 1007 01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:24,859 with the a lot of them come through 1008 01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:29,640 Canada because the ducats came to Canada 1009 01:00:37,759 --> 01:00:36,180 like 1603 something insanely early but 1010 01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:37,769 they're young others do kids in France 1011 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:40,980 and according to my father his dad came 1012 01:00:50,509 --> 01:00:45,569 from France and not Canada so yeah maybe 1013 01:00:53,509 --> 01:00:50,519 I could do it should use that as a hey 1014 01:00:56,029 --> 01:00:53,519 give me you know square foot somewhere 1015 01:00:58,490 --> 01:00:56,039 there I was wondering if your French 1016 01:01:01,250 --> 01:00:58,500 ancestry had anything to do with sort of 1017 01:01:03,769 --> 01:01:01,260 your interest in all cult matters I mean 1018 01:01:05,660 --> 01:01:03,779 there's a lot you know I French 1019 01:01:09,319 --> 01:01:05,670 Freemasonry and all that I don't know 1020 01:01:13,579 --> 01:01:09,329 funny you should mention that because my 1021 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:13,589 latest book with Llewellyn is called 1022 01:01:23,269 --> 01:01:19,890 homemade magic and the musings and 1023 01:01:33,319 --> 01:01:23,279 mischief of a do-it-yourself Magus and I 1024 01:01:36,620 --> 01:01:33,329 talk about the families and um and the 1025 01:01:38,089 --> 01:01:36,630 magical aspects of families you know 1026 01:01:42,349 --> 01:01:38,099 there's a great tradition in witchcraft 1027 01:01:44,809 --> 01:01:42,359 of some you know you're a hereditary 1028 01:01:47,180 --> 01:01:44,819 which or people like to like it and 1029 01:01:50,859 --> 01:01:47,190 think of themselves as such and whether 1030 01:01:58,660 --> 01:01:50,869 whether or not there's any validity to 1031 01:02:06,349 --> 01:02:02,559 magical trajectory in their DNA you know 1032 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:06,359 yours yeah and actually the area it's in 1033 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:09,930 my book alo magic the books called low 1034 01:02:14,269 --> 01:02:12,210 magic all in your head it's all in your 1035 01:02:18,740 --> 01:02:14,279 head you just have no idea how big your 1036 01:02:21,050 --> 01:02:18,750 head is that's the subtitle 1037 01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:21,060 and that's a Llewellyn book too but I've 1038 01:02:30,730 --> 01:02:25,500 got a UH chapter called family secrets 1039 01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:30,740 and and I and I wrote it not so much to 1040 01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:35,550 tout my own family's craziness but to 1041 01:02:42,110 --> 01:02:39,720 get you thinking about your own and hmm 1042 01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:42,120 what's back there in the Duquette family 1043 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:45,660 did the social secret you know law I 1044 01:02:53,180 --> 01:02:47,970 have no idea i think Duquette is the 1045 01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:53,190 name people give their their baby when 1046 01:03:00,980 --> 01:02:58,250 their parents don't get married what I 1047 01:03:04,370 --> 01:03:00,990 don't i know that's a terrible thing to 1048 01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:04,380 save budget uh it's it's not a very 1049 01:03:09,620 --> 01:03:06,830 royal name you know I I looked up some 1050 01:03:12,650 --> 01:03:09,630 you know I sent away for one of these 1051 01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:12,660 coats of arms type thing yeah yeah me 1052 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:15,510 where they tell you a little bit a bunch 1053 01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:17,370 of family and tried to sell you a coffee 1054 01:03:24,860 --> 01:03:21,000 cup with your family crest on it or 1055 01:03:27,410 --> 01:03:24,870 something and my brother just recently 1056 01:03:29,330 --> 01:03:27,420 passed away and I got some of these 1057 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:29,340 effects and I was looking through it 1058 01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:35,010 just the other day and it said the 1059 01:03:44,330 --> 01:03:40,260 family motto is what families is the the 1060 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:44,340 phrase families used as their battle cry 1061 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:48,330 as they went into battle mm-hmm and then 1062 01:03:59,120 --> 01:03:55,530 it says there was no family motto so the 1063 01:04:01,730 --> 01:03:59,130 ducats were mute on the matter is the 1064 01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:01,740 last time last time I was faced with war 1065 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:05,040 myself my family motto was which way to 1066 01:04:10,940 --> 01:04:09,210 Canada you know so that's out do you 1067 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:10,950 know what area of France that your 1068 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:15,210 family hailed from our do ducat actually 1069 01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:22,130 uh comes from the root of uh Duke way uh 1070 01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:26,460 and the quay quay is you know a harbor 1071 01:04:31,050 --> 01:04:29,960 or up our place where boats are moored 1072 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:31,060 Harbor 1073 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:37,930 or a wharf so uh it's my Wharf rat we're 1074 01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:42,610 Wharf rats could have been there you 1075 01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:43,900 could have been there in the South of 1076 01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:45,790 France on the Mediterranean you know 1077 01:04:55,290 --> 01:04:50,700 with all the rich people yeah well 1078 01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:55,300 Phillipos you know I do have well I've 1079 01:05:01,670 --> 01:04:58,090 got this strange field theory but uh 1080 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:01,680 pardon the field theory is based on on 1081 01:05:11,370 --> 01:05:06,720 memories I had as an infant when I was 1082 01:05:14,610 --> 01:05:11,380 just starting to walk this is the lichen 1083 01:05:18,030 --> 01:05:14,620 around nineteen fifty just starting to 1084 01:05:21,060 --> 01:05:18,040 walk um they noticed that I was limping 1085 01:05:24,750 --> 01:05:21,070 and they of course they were very very 1086 01:05:26,730 --> 01:05:24,760 afraid I had polio mmm has all the 1087 01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:26,740 neighbor kids around me had pirate 1088 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:28,960 there's polio on both sides of me and 1089 01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:33,850 across the street Shanna so they were 1090 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:35,800 relieved that I didn't have polio but I 1091 01:05:42,030 --> 01:05:39,210 did have what they call hip 1092 01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:42,040 disease which is a bone disease that 1093 01:05:48,090 --> 01:05:44,230 there is no they don't know what causes 1094 01:05:51,630 --> 01:05:48,100 it is probably genetic and there's no 1095 01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:51,640 there's no really treatment or cure for 1096 01:06:00,300 --> 01:05:55,740 it but a good percentage of children 1097 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:00,310 just outgrow it but to keep my entire 1098 01:06:06,570 --> 01:06:03,610 hip from turning into dust they 1099 01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:06,580 immobilize me they put me back in the 1100 01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:10,710 crib okay for another couple years oh 1101 01:06:18,510 --> 01:06:16,630 and I had the luxury where most kids are 1102 01:06:21,570 --> 01:06:18,520 you know when you start to walk and 1103 01:06:25,380 --> 01:06:21,580 you're starting to talk you lose your 1104 01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:25,390 infantile pre-linguistic thoughts and 1105 01:06:37,770 --> 01:06:32,320 memories all of us thought as baby and 1106 01:06:39,810 --> 01:06:37,780 had dream impressions and images but we 1107 01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:39,820 didn't think in words we weren't 1108 01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:44,020 restricted to thinking in words we 1109 01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:46,870 we had a consciousness an infantile 1110 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:49,600 consciousness that was still totally 1111 01:06:56,580 --> 01:06:53,650 aware of previous incarnations we lose 1112 01:06:59,850 --> 01:06:56,590 that as we start to walk in the same way 1113 01:07:03,240 --> 01:06:59,860 as we lose the dreams that we were in as 1114 01:07:10,370 --> 01:07:03,250 we're waking up in the morning mmm and 1115 01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:10,380 and so I was allowed to 24 hours a day 1116 01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:13,540 become be awake for 10 minutes and 1117 01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:17,110 asleep for 10 minutes and awake for 10 1118 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:20,470 minutes and asleep for 10 minutes 24 1119 01:07:26,340 --> 01:07:22,930 hours a day I didn't I didn't go to 1120 01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:26,350 sleep and wake up in the morning I went 1121 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:28,900 to sleep every 10 minutes why did you 1122 01:07:33,350 --> 01:07:30,130 have a sleeping pattern like that 1123 01:07:36,660 --> 01:07:33,360 anything because I was allowed to 1124 01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:36,670 because I was immobilized and nothing 1125 01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:40,120 else to do I guess I and to tell you the 1126 01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:42,790 truth I didn't want to do anything else 1127 01:07:52,290 --> 01:07:49,120 it was it was wonderful and I remembered 1128 01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:52,300 I had vivid dreams of myself as an adult 1129 01:08:02,370 --> 01:07:59,920 in various scenarios now this is 1950 we 1130 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:02,380 didn't have a television set I didn't 1131 01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:04,150 watch television I didn't listen to 1132 01:08:11,460 --> 01:08:08,680 radio I never went to a movie I had no 1133 01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:11,470 other source of these images except 1134 01:08:23,309 --> 01:08:20,140 myself well and I had vivid memories of 1135 01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:23,319 being in a trench with a bunch of other 1136 01:08:31,170 --> 01:08:27,520 guys at night with explosives bright 1137 01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:31,180 explosives going on overhead and I can 1138 01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:35,230 hear the pelting of pebbles and dirt on 1139 01:08:45,809 --> 01:08:41,760 my helmet I had vivid memories of of 1140 01:08:49,050 --> 01:08:45,819 early Hollywood of me getting into a 1141 01:08:52,829 --> 01:08:49,060 beautiful little roadster I had their 1142 01:08:56,430 --> 01:08:52,839 more than images and memories they were 1143 01:08:57,690 --> 01:08:56,440 smells I could I could relive the 1144 01:09:00,750 --> 01:08:57,700 feeling I 1145 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:00,760 was going to drive what I would later 1146 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:03,210 discover is the pacific coast highway 1147 01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:06,490 down to what i would later discover and 1148 01:09:14,910 --> 01:09:11,590 drive right past to Ensenada Mexico to a 1149 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:14,920 place that I would later see as a 4 30 1150 01:09:24,540 --> 01:09:21,130 year old man uh a gambling casino owned 1151 01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:24,550 by Jack Dempsey I was going there I was 1152 01:09:30,180 --> 01:09:27,880 meeting a woman I and even as a baby I 1153 01:09:33,510 --> 01:09:30,190 did I was very excited to meet that 1154 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:33,520 woman and I and even though I was a baby 1155 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:35,170 I didn't know what I was going to do 1156 01:09:44,810 --> 01:09:37,600 with that woman but I knew it was going 1157 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:44,820 to be incredibly pleasurable no yeah and 1158 01:09:51,210 --> 01:09:47,410 so knowing you were having them three I 1159 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:51,220 mean having that image were you looking 1160 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:52,810 at a past life or were you looking at 1161 01:09:59,250 --> 01:09:57,130 the future it really doesn't there there 1162 01:10:03,180 --> 01:09:59,260 isn't a different matter i guess yeah 1163 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:03,190 but the point is I never felt like I 1164 01:10:12,030 --> 01:10:09,370 wasn't just being me hmm and and and and 1165 01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:12,040 so as I was trying to process all of 1166 01:10:19,230 --> 01:10:13,990 this with all this time I had on my 1167 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:19,240 hands um I tried to ask myself uh you 1168 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:23,770 know was I off you know what what 1169 01:10:29,310 --> 01:10:26,050 happened to me between that and this was 1170 01:10:33,570 --> 01:10:29,320 i off and I tried to picture myself 1171 01:10:36,090 --> 01:10:33,580 being off and I couldn't do it it was 1172 01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:36,100 Eva says I I remember spending weeks 1173 01:10:39,660 --> 01:10:38,080 trying this every day well today I'm 1174 01:10:43,980 --> 01:10:39,670 going to try it again I'm trying to and 1175 01:10:47,610 --> 01:10:43,990 try to picture myself off and I couldn't 1176 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:47,620 do it every time I went off in me I went 1177 01:10:54,390 --> 01:10:51,850 on someplace else hmm and this is just 1178 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:54,400 exactly what I was what we were talking 1179 01:10:59,940 --> 01:10:56,170 about Justin that in the first few 1180 01:11:04,170 --> 01:10:59,950 minutes of our conversation today we 1181 01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:04,180 stay on all the time we're on all we've 1182 01:11:10,260 --> 01:11:06,840 never been off if you're on right now 1183 01:11:11,700 --> 01:11:10,270 sorry kiddo you've always been on you'll 1184 01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:11,710 always be on and 1185 01:11:18,209 --> 01:11:16,000 till you realize your Godhead and this 1186 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:18,219 idea of previous incarnations and stuff 1187 01:11:22,860 --> 01:11:20,530 well I think it's a reality to me 1188 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:22,870 because because I'm gods ended memories 1189 01:11:29,970 --> 01:11:25,930 of it but you know it's always been me 1190 01:11:32,729 --> 01:11:29,980 and so the physicists are telling us the 1191 01:11:36,990 --> 01:11:32,739 time does not exist as we as we think of 1192 01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:37,000 it it's not linear we're on right now 1193 01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:40,719 our incarnations are now are happening 1194 01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:44,110 simultaneously there is only a big now 1195 01:11:51,330 --> 01:11:47,710 for us to work with there's only a big 1196 01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:51,340 now to existence and so our previous 1197 01:11:58,650 --> 01:11:54,670 incarnations are happening right now and 1198 01:12:01,140 --> 01:11:58,660 if we change our nowness we not only 1199 01:12:03,780 --> 01:12:01,150 change what we used to think the future 1200 01:12:05,700 --> 01:12:03,790 is going to be we're changing what we 1201 01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:05,710 used to think our previous incarnations 1202 01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:09,400 were changing now changes both the past 1203 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:12,310 in the present and the future it's 1204 01:12:18,060 --> 01:12:15,250 really big stuff but it's not even 1205 01:12:20,490 --> 01:12:18,070 sounded mystical anymore just turn on on 1206 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:20,500 your public television station and watch 1207 01:12:27,959 --> 01:12:22,930 one of those Nova programs right Neil 1208 01:12:30,270 --> 01:12:27,969 deGrasse see ya it's how does one do it 1209 01:12:35,310 --> 01:12:30,280 though how does he or is it just any 1210 01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:35,320 change a change that you make in you 1211 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:37,180 know maybe you're go off in a different 1212 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:39,250 direction and follow up different 1213 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:42,370 passion or a different career or is it 1214 01:12:49,470 --> 01:12:45,930 are you talking about more deep changes 1215 01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:49,480 it's it's more deep changes that the 1216 01:12:57,060 --> 01:12:53,820 change is waking up a little bit more 1217 01:12:59,340 --> 01:12:57,070 we're like a wreck consciousness wives 1218 01:13:01,979 --> 01:12:59,350 we're like one of those Russian nesting 1219 01:13:05,190 --> 01:13:01,989 dolls that's a doll inside a doll inside 1220 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:05,200 a doll and federal you know yes but the 1221 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:11,050 the the the the big doll that on the 1222 01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:14,770 outside is really asleep the one on the 1223 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:18,070 end just inside it is more awake it's 1224 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:20,770 like that marvelous movie Inception you 1225 01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:25,510 know da and waking up here 1226 01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:28,960 what the catalysts have have tried to 1227 01:13:37,650 --> 01:13:33,520 term it uh or to refer to as this climb 1228 01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:37,660 up the tree of life as we as the tree of 1229 01:13:43,020 --> 01:13:40,390 life is an emanation of Godhead that 1230 01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:43,030 starts to slow down and condense one 1231 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:45,310 becomes two becomes three becomes 4 1232 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:48,610 etcetera and and we're down in 10 but 1233 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:51,130 we're asleep in number 10 we need to 1234 01:13:56,730 --> 01:13:54,970 wake up to be number nine hmm and then 1235 01:13:59,400 --> 01:13:56,740 we need to run when we're number nine we 1236 01:14:01,950 --> 01:13:59,410 need to wake up to realize we're number 1237 01:14:04,050 --> 01:14:01,960 eight and then we need to wake up to 1238 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:04,060 realize we're number seven and it's 1239 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:07,810 those waking up mrs. that realign the 1240 01:14:16,170 --> 01:14:11,290 past and in the future and those those 1241 01:14:20,130 --> 01:14:16,180 that waking up this is something that is 1242 01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:20,140 happening to us right now but it happens 1243 01:14:27,570 --> 01:14:23,920 most dramatically when we have some kind 1244 01:14:30,540 --> 01:14:27,580 of major epiphany that changes our life 1245 01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:30,550 and our direction those are in nishat 1246 01:14:35,250 --> 01:14:33,040 ori moments they're big they're big 1247 01:14:40,020 --> 01:14:35,260 things but if you don't think that 1248 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:40,030 you're already waking up more just being 1249 01:14:48,540 --> 01:14:44,130 you and and and slugging it through this 1250 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:48,550 this mortal coil here ask yourself if 1251 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:50,410 you would trade places with the 1252 01:14:59,220 --> 01:14:53,770 spiritual person that you were ten years 1253 01:15:02,910 --> 01:14:59,230 ago mmm absolutely not you wouldn't do 1254 01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:02,920 it no wrong you would say I was a 1255 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:05,760 ten years ago compared to where I am now 1256 01:15:12,090 --> 01:15:08,410 okay then would you trade places five 1257 01:15:16,110 --> 01:15:12,100 years ago now would you trade place a 1258 01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:16,120 year ago now would you even trade places 1259 01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:19,600 was where you were yesterday would you 1260 01:15:26,490 --> 01:15:23,490 go back to the you that was yesterday no 1261 01:15:33,060 --> 01:15:26,500 because as bad as things are your hipper 1262 01:15:36,750 --> 01:15:33,070 than you were yesterday yeah your those 1263 01:15:38,669 --> 01:15:36,760 are little waking up mrs. okay but the 1264 01:15:44,189 --> 01:15:38,679 big waking up mrs. are 1265 01:15:46,979 --> 01:15:44,199 those major stunning epiphanies or quiet 1266 01:15:52,580 --> 01:15:46,989 epiphanies where you all of a sudden 1267 01:15:58,259 --> 01:15:52,590 realize that you are a greater 1268 01:16:01,859 --> 01:15:58,269 consciousness then you were just perhaps 1269 01:16:03,839 --> 01:16:01,869 a split second earlier and there's also 1270 01:16:06,270 --> 01:16:03,849 and this is what the Yogi's are trying 1271 01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:06,280 to do with you you know and as you move 1272 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:09,449 from one chakra to another and think ah 1273 01:16:15,060 --> 01:16:12,489 what does what the magician's are trying 1274 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:15,070 to do with their magical grades what's a 1275 01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,489 UH the Golden Dawn was trying to do 1276 01:16:22,739 --> 01:16:20,800 symbolically with her climb up the tree 1277 01:16:26,009 --> 01:16:22,749 of life it's what Aleister Crowley was 1278 01:16:30,089 --> 01:16:26,019 trying to do in actuality bye-bye 1279 01:16:32,459 --> 01:16:30,099 actually climbing up the tree of lasers 1280 01:16:34,799 --> 01:16:32,469 you're not if you're not awake at that 1281 01:16:38,759 --> 01:16:34,809 level then don't claim to be that grade 1282 01:16:43,469 --> 01:16:38,769 you know but it's it's the great work 1283 01:16:47,370 --> 01:16:43,479 the great work is just waking up and 1284 01:16:50,419 --> 01:16:47,380 each wage one of those waking ups is it 1285 01:16:59,429 --> 01:16:50,429 is changing your past and your future 1286 01:17:02,699 --> 01:16:59,439 and I'm fully confident that the final 1287 01:17:07,580 --> 01:17:02,709 big wake up is when we realize that 1288 01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:07,590 we've been each other all along that 1289 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:10,469 we've been each other we've been 1290 01:17:18,179 --> 01:17:15,010 everything the big wake-up is Godhead 1291 01:17:22,949 --> 01:17:18,189 and it's not like you you melt yourself 1292 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:22,959 into Godhead it's just waking up to the 1293 01:17:29,879 --> 01:17:25,090 final realization that you've been 1294 01:17:34,969 --> 01:17:29,889 Godhead all along time disappears space 1295 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:34,979 disappears nothing but the wood the 1296 01:17:42,060 --> 01:17:39,550 Bliss consciousness of Godhead now I'm 1297 01:17:45,299 --> 01:17:42,070 saying it in this way but it's exactly 1298 01:17:47,879 --> 01:17:45,309 what the Yogi's have been saying for 1299 01:17:50,839 --> 01:17:47,889 thousands of years exactly what the 1300 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:50,849 catalysts have been saying for well 1301 01:17:57,359 --> 01:17:52,570 maybe 2,000 1302 01:18:04,109 --> 01:17:57,369 it's exactly what what Lao Tzu was was 1303 01:18:06,990 --> 01:18:04,119 was saying with his dau yeah but it's 1304 01:18:09,649 --> 01:18:07,000 sort of the opposite of what most of us 1305 01:18:12,209 --> 01:18:09,659 especially in this country were taught 1306 01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:12,219 you know is that a baby you are the 1307 01:18:22,910 --> 01:18:18,960 Godhead that's blasphemy well which is a 1308 01:18:25,229 --> 01:18:22,920 definitive LS with me but I'm all for it 1309 01:18:35,550 --> 01:18:25,239 and you're just going straight to hell 1310 01:18:39,569 --> 01:18:35,560 on it worked it worked really really 1311 01:18:42,209 --> 01:18:39,579 well on so so many of us you know it's 1312 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:42,219 like oh you if you say that then oh my 1313 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:45,090 goodness you're flirting with disaster 1314 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:48,730 yeah I wrote a song called outside the 1315 01:18:59,069 --> 01:18:54,730 box yes and if if you want to find the 1316 01:19:01,890 --> 01:18:59,079 YouTube to it just you know Google lon 1317 01:19:06,089 --> 01:19:01,900 Duquette outside the box but anyway the 1318 01:19:09,959 --> 01:19:06,099 song goes I told my mom when I was 10 1319 01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:09,969 the Bible was a crock she took me to the 1320 01:19:16,830 --> 01:19:13,150 preacher man boys thinking outside the 1321 01:19:19,859 --> 01:19:16,840 box now look here boy the preacher said 1322 01:19:21,540 --> 01:19:19,869 just stop that crazy talk cuz sticks and 1323 01:19:24,750 --> 01:19:21,550 stones will break your bones if you 1324 01:19:27,569 --> 01:19:24,760 think outside the box you'll fight and 1325 01:19:31,020 --> 01:19:27,579 fail you land in jail the world will 1326 01:19:33,899 --> 01:19:31,030 clean your clock you'll spend eternity 1327 01:19:39,450 --> 01:19:33,909 in hell if you think outside the box 1328 01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:39,460 can't see that's that's it and that's a 1329 01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:42,880 true story that's it it is a dream story 1330 01:19:51,180 --> 01:19:46,030 that I told my mom when I was dead you 1331 01:19:54,839 --> 01:19:51,190 know but yeah and she took she drugged 1332 01:19:57,540 --> 01:19:54,849 me by the ear to the Methodist minister 1333 01:19:59,290 --> 01:19:57,550 who I tell you was was one of the 1334 01:20:03,430 --> 01:19:59,300 coolest guys and though he had 1335 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:03,440 you know world in reality but to humor 1336 01:20:12,010 --> 01:20:08,570 her he gave me that lecture and but in 1337 01:20:14,740 --> 01:20:12,020 doing so he was telling me under his 1338 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:14,750 breath no lon think outside the box 1339 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:21,730 that's what God wants you to do and so 1340 01:20:26,710 --> 01:20:24,830 I've denied it was Phillipe I've been 1341 01:20:30,610 --> 01:20:26,720 blissfully blessed in this ever since 1342 01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:30,620 then yeah that was a an unusual answer 1343 01:20:34,810 --> 01:20:33,230 from of course that was a Methodist a if 1344 01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:34,820 you'd gone to a Southern Baptist it 1345 01:20:38,230 --> 01:20:36,080 would have been a whole different story 1346 01:20:43,330 --> 01:20:38,240 i guess i can guarantee you be sure to 1347 01:20:46,990 --> 01:20:43,340 tell me the change in yeah that's right 1348 01:20:49,330 --> 01:20:47,000 that's right yep oh goodness i guess the 1349 01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:49,340 music starting to roll on a lawn mower 1350 01:20:58,030 --> 01:20:52,400 the cat thanks so much for joining us 1351 01:21:01,300 --> 01:20:58,040 you guys look up lawn at on Sunset 1352 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:01,310 Boulevard in Los Angeles in Hollywood at 1353 01:21:06,340 --> 01:21:03,410 the house of blues the booty lounge 1354 01:21:08,590 --> 01:21:06,350 that's next thursday night a week from 1355 01:21:12,130 --> 01:21:08,600 tonight you can listen to my show in the 1356 01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:12,140 archives go see lon anyway also look up 1357 01:21:18,910 --> 01:21:15,890 flaunts cds on cdbaby and look up his